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Arkantos · Apr 26, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

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So if you know why people are mad, why would you post:

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but are you going to go to bed and cry all night because you didn't get your mini a day or two early?

That is not why people are mad. People are mad because normal players are getting unreleased items. Whether they're supposed to be released monday or in a month, normal players should not be able to get unreleased items because they're in the same guild as devs.

Firebaall · Apr 26, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

If that is what really happened, I'm on the fence about the situation, but definitely outraged about this 'cover-up.' I think it's safe to assume that everything Regina said on her talk page is rubbish, whether she came up with it on her own or was told to say it. Even if what she said was true, I'd like to know why there's some kind of random chance some beta players would get early b-day presents, while others didn't. It doesn't add up; therefore rubbish.

Not the best foot to get off on in her new CR position was it? It will be a good crash test to see if she can cope with this volatile situation.

gone · Apr 26, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by fenix

A couple of ZoS members had already posted pictures of the 3rd year minipets they got as well. And knowing WhiteWasabi, he would have been flaunting the minipet to anyone and everyone, so yeah, we would have found out. The fact that he got 175 ecto for a minipet that won't be worth 20k in a months time, is a joke.

yeah. it must be nice. oh well.

I'll sell mine for like 10k along with the rest of the suckers...I mean players.

Joshie0808 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

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The issue is probably being seen from 2 different views:

Anet favoring a certain group of people.
The problem with this is that nonDEV ZoS members are selling minipets for money. When Anet has a huge issue about real world money trading and tries to protect the in game economy from any external influence, this is certainly counterproductive.

Its like your Boss promising to give everyone a raise in 5 days. Then he gives your co worker AND ONLY your co worker a raise, 4 days early.

People have a problem with the fact that your coworker is getting paid extra for 4 days and they're not.

The 2nd point to this issue is that Anet said something, but they arent doing what they said. They stated on their website that minipets are released on April 28th. Today is not april 28th, and yet there are already new minipets for sale.

Its like your Boss promising to give everyone a raise in 5 days. Then he gives your co worker AND ONLY your co worker a raise, 4 days early.

People have a problem with the fact that your boss is not trustworthy and goes back on his words.

Anet is a professional company and should act as such. This type of crap should not happen. And if it does, proper response should be given. We are not seeing any response at all.

Yoshikuni Mahsu · Apr 26, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

So if you know why people are mad, why would you post:

That is not why people are mad. People are mad because normal players are getting unreleased items. Whether they're supposed to be released monday or in a month, normal players should not be able to get unreleased items because they're in the same guild as devs.

People arent getting the unreleased early simply because they're in a guild with devs. They're getting them because A: Theres some sort of miscommunication about when some of the minipets are going to be released: AKA early events, beta and the sort (although this does look fishy, its still unconfirmed (?)) or B: They happen to be particularly dedicated to GW than regular users. The idea that they got items simply because they were in ZoS and for only that reason is ludicrous if you ask me. If this were the case than everyone, in ZoS would have 3rd year minipets by now.

Drogo Boffin · Apr 26, 2008, 07:09 AM // 07:09

whatever wasabi got for it. he bought it back from whoever he sold it it for the same price. and i only know of 2 ppl in zos getting third year minis.

Joshie0808 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

People arent getting the unreleased early simply because they're in a guild with devs. They're getting them because A: Theres some sort of miscommunication about when some of the minipets are going to be released: AKA early events, beta and the sort (although this does look fishy, its still unconfirmed (?)) or B: They happen to be particularly dedicated to GW than regular users. The idea that they got items simply because they were in ZoS and for only that reason is ludicrous if you ask me. If this were the case than everyone, in ZoS would have 3rd year minipets by now.

Thats only what half the people are pissed off about. (the ZoS issue)
its the fact that there IS miscommunication about when the minis are going to be released. Thats the other reason. Maybe if they wanted them released earlier, they could post on their site april 25th, rather than april 28th.

PLEASEEEE, nobody say its a typo. Cuz thats just pathetic.

Yoshikuni Mahsu · Apr 26, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

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Originally Posted by Joshie0808

Its like your Boss promising to give everyone a raise in 5 days. Then he gives your co worker AND ONLY your co worker a raise, 4 days early.

I think this is where the problem is. I see that coworker as particularly involved in and dedicated to his job. Wasabi shouldn't have sold it. He deserves a nice big helping of /ban if you ask me, but I wouldn't doubt Anets credibility for a second. (ok, maybe 1, but not 2)

Arkantos · Apr 26, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

People arent getting the unreleased early simply because they're in a guild with devs. They're getting them because A: Theres some sort of miscommunication about when some of the minipets are going to be released: AKA early events, beta and the sort (although this does look fishy, its still unconfirmed (?)) or B: They happen to be particularly dedicated to GW than regular users. The idea that they got items simply because they were in ZoS and for only that reason is ludicrous if you ask me. If this were the case than everyone, in ZoS would have 3rd year minipets by now.

I'd believe that people with characters from the 2005 event got mini pets early if 1) people outside ZoS received the gifts 2) ANet lied about the mini pets being released on monday and 3) every characters /age got reset when the server went live (according to Gaile).

Just because they're more dedicated to Guild Wars than a regular player certainly does not mean they deserve unreleased items. Ludicrous or not, it's the most believable idea until a dev tells us what happened without lying. Regina is new and doesn't exactly know what she's talking about, and apparently Andrew Patrick is refusing to talk about the issue.

If there was a legit reason for this, Andrew Patrick wouldn't be hiding. But he is hiding, so it's quite clear something is going on. No reason to hide if nothing fishy is going on, right?

ryanryanryan0310 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I think alot of people are not getting the point of this thread....
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maybe i'm not....

If the dev's got the mini-pets early that ok. But why introduce the NEW mini-pets into the community before the 28th? Don't they got the common sense that it would cause an outrage?

Doesn't that spoil the whole april 28th celebration?

But if the entire ZoS got new mini's that just f**ked up!!!

Cacheelma · Apr 26, 2008, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

They're getting them because A: Theres some sort of miscommunication about when some of the minipets are going to be released: AKA early events, beta and the sort (although this does look fishy, its still unconfirmed (?))

Fishy? No. Try: WRONG.

As I said earlier, the only early event was the headstart, which was only 24 hours earlier than normal. Beta date doesn't matter. And it hadn't been matter since the 1st anniversary. My character was first created during the World Preview Event (Halloween 2004). I don't see my 3rd year mini anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

or B: They happen to be particularly dedicated to GW than regular users. The idea that they got items simply because they were in ZoS and for only that reason is ludicrous if you ask me. If this were the case than everyone, in ZoS would have 3rd year minipets by now.

Then STATE IT AS SUCH. I don't see anywhere on guildwars.com saying "Some favored customers are going to get this this this and this". If Anet decide to do that now, SAY SO.

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Originally Posted by Drogo Boffin

whatever wasabi got for it. he bought it back from whoever he sold it it for the same price. and i only know of 2 ppl in zos getting third year minis.

Still don't have a clue huh?

Do yourself a favor and borrow some money from wasabi, and BUY SOME CLUE.

Joshie0808 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

I think this is where the problem is. I see that coworker as particularly involved in and dedicated to his job. Wasabi shouldn't have sold it. He deserves a nice big helping of /ban if you ask me, but I wouldn't doubt Anets credibility for a second. (ok, maybe 1, but not 2)

Thats exactly it. See, someone screwed up, somewhere. The dev's getting the minipets early, guilds or players getting rewards for something they did (such as NPC named after them or places named after them) thats all in anet's power to do. Its just that maybe someone should've kept the 'gift' under wraps till monday?

Back to that analogy, maybe your Boss does give everyone else a raise in 5 days, keeping to his word.

Its just that someone needs to clear this up. People are asking why there is a minipet on the MARKET before its release date? But nobody is clearing it up and there lies the root of this entire discussion. If people are given the impression that "nobody" (exception applies to special people like staff members etc) is getting a minipet before the stated release date, and a minipet turns up on sale.. and floats around the general community for a bit.. theres a bit of a problem.

Kashrlyyk · Apr 26, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Does that suprise anyone?

Well, there was Hope. But she died now. Not a pretty sight. Anyone contacted Gaile about it? Maybe she wants to take revenge for being kept out of loop??

Firebaall · Apr 26, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Yoshikuni Mahsu

I think this is where the problem is. I see that coworker as particularly involved in and dedicated to his job. Wasabi shouldn't have sold it. He deserves a nice big helping of /ban if you ask me, but I wouldn't doubt Anets credibility for a second. (ok, maybe 1, but not 2)

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I suspect, however knowing Anet employees will save him from what he deserves.

It's a shame dupers (the few that were caught), didn't have such ties. But hey, they were just trying to take advantage of the game economics through questionable means too....

seut · Apr 26, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

3) every characters /age got reset when the server went live (according to Gaile).

Apparently the servers went live on the 25th with a small crowd of handpicked beta testers on them.
On the 27th early access for pre-order accounts was opened (my monk should get a mini on Sunday).
On the 28th retail buyers were able to access the server.

Shawn The Divine · Apr 26, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Wasabai is going to HUNDREDS of additional ectos for having his minipet early.

Meh, that's nothing, I sold my gold rabbit minipet for 2000 ecto.

lol pve minipet drama

RhanoctJocosa · Apr 26, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

What's come out of this thread so far:

- ZoS member gets a minipet before everyone else, which is unfair on several levels.
- Community is jealous/generally upset.
- Random pve scrubs/morons from ZoS try to defend WW/AP/ZoS but fail terribly.

This thread has delivered.

I think WW should be banned and AP should lose his job.

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Kashrlyyk · Apr 26, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

If I had to guess on what actually happened:

All the devs probably received their 3rd year presents early, possibly by being the only ones whose /age wasn't reset after the last beta before release or something. Then, it's likely that one of the devs (possibly Andrew) gave Wasabi his mini because he didn't want it for whatever reason, or just wanted to give a gift. Wasabi didn't want it either, or saw an opportunity to make some quick cash and the rest is history.

I can see where this situation would be innocent enough, but would also be taken badly by most of the community simply because Wasabi is not a dev and he got something before everyone else out of favoritism.

If that is what really happened, I'm on the fence about the situation, but definitely outraged about this 'cover-up.' I think it's safe to assume that everything Regina said on her talk page is rubbish, whether she came up with it on her own or was told to say it. Even if what she said was true, I'd like to know why there's some kind of random chance some beta players would get early b-day presents, while others didn't. It doesn't add up; therefore rubbish.

Several member of ZoS already have their minipets. How many devs are members of ZoS?

Joshie0808 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine

Meh, that's nothing, I sold my gold rabbit minipet for 2000 ecto.

Im sorry to break it to you, but they're just pixels on a screen. That's hardly the main point here.

nomoretacos4u · Apr 26, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

saw these two in kamadan ad1 a few mins ago

i have full screens if people want them